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Post by yvonne on Oct 4, 2013 7:25:48 GMT -8
The idea is to have one LEGAL class that has a real set of rules. When ADRL offered their legal class we didn't see anybody asking for weight breaks or other special considerations. They as well as XDRL and Tulsa have all gone with NHRA rules. Its the standard for legal. NHRA hasn't seen a need yet to break down ci for nitrous cars, add different weights for different OD's or make allowances for small blocks. If small block turbo guys want that to happen then they will need to go through the same channels that others have to make rule changes in NHRA. The same way we lobbied for air shifters, converters and water injection, just to name a few.
I can tell you exactly what will happen otherwise... next year the racers with 91's and 94's will bang on the door wanting in at some weight. Then the screw guys who aren't quite on kill, as Adam says, will also want in. Then we will be right back where we were except now you will have two classes with maybe 100lbs weight differences averaged out. Nothing will have changed.
There are a lot of racers out there closer to legal than to outlaw. We're not talking about being competitive for an entire NHRA series. We're talking about allowing cars to try they hand at competing under rules that make sense for THREE different combos. If it was given a chance you'd see a great group of cars and especially by next year.
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Post by mortonsalt62 on Oct 4, 2013 8:29:53 GMT -8
When do you think you will get the rules posted? Your website said yesterday.
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Post by promod63 on Oct 4, 2013 9:42:05 GMT -8
Ross, if this was a NHRA Pro Mod Legal Class to the "WRITTEN RULE", only 1 US blown car (Mike Knowles) west of the Mississippi could enter at 14.55od and have a prayer against Janis, Rowe, or any top Turbo or Nitrous Car.... Correct me if I'm wrong
Very few if any west coast/Canada Pro Mods are equipped with the safety devices NHRA requires... So if you can't go 100% with the NHRA Class, you have to make adjustments
What about all the great 6.0 Roots Cars that run at 20over that can't get those SPECIAL NHRA BLOWERS?
Roots & Nitrous cars both wanted a class where there are no Screws, 94mm Turbos and Low 5.70 capability..... Well here it is
[/quote] Mel, If this was NHRA Pro-Mod legal to the "written rule" not a single nitrous car west of the Mississippi could enter and have a prayer against Smith, Castelana, Janis, Rowe, or any of the other top turbo, blown, or nitrous cars .... correct me if I'm wrong. This is not the point here!! As this race was proposed it would have NHRA performance rules and advanced ET safety rules. Don't really see a need for adjustments. Competitive NHRA blowers are available to anyone for less than the price of manifold and NOS systems or twin 88s (I.E Kevin Rivenbark # 10 @ Indy went to semis in 15 year old car at 1st NHRA race ever!!) This race was brought up and as I understand, mostly funded by racers looking for a legal Pro-Mod class. The current rules have been tested and are working very well. If you choose not to build a car according to national standards, it seems you would run it where it fits and belongs rather than expecting many good legal cars to run under " The rules that Mel wrote". There it is!! Ross PS won't be back to chat
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Post by garyu on Oct 4, 2013 9:42:53 GMT -8
I must jump in to say that I am thrilled to hear that you guys have assembled this class. Some people have obviously stepped up to the plate so that some of us racers would have an option to play in your new playground. Whoever is involved in making this happen,, I thank you.
Most players as I see it participated in the Street car Super Nationals under the class name of ProStreet. With the Progress that the “outlaw” cars have made, it sure makes it difficult for some of the other players to consider themselves or should I say ourselves a contender so to speak.
It is with that in mind that the talk of a legal promod class with the Advanced ET safety rules becomes such an attractive class. Mel, you mentioned you were striving for a class with no screw cars or 94mm turbos, you are correct but at the same time, I guess some of us would like to keep the performance side of the rules on track with the NHRA. Heck is Janis and alike come and play, all the better I would say.
I guess I am getting a little wordy, sorry about that. In my opinion I would like to see the NHRA performance and Advanced ET safety rules. That is how the class was presented to me when I received an initial call about the concept.
In the end, I am just glad there is a place to play. Again, thanks for that.
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Post by mountainmadness on Oct 4, 2013 9:53:58 GMT -8
X2 Ross X2 Gary
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Post by promod631 on Oct 4, 2013 11:47:57 GMT -8
was pretty excited when I got first call from Yvonne about this race, with full intentions of being there, now not so much, guess I am going hunting that week.. very disappointed.
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Post by dal on Oct 4, 2013 20:42:26 GMT -8
Wow it seems that all the nitrous cars want a class of there own. Do you really think that any twin turbo big block cars will want to race this class. Can you really see Coughlin or Jose in this class. The only ones you are trying to exclude are a few small block twin turbo cars. You should all be glad that Mel is wiling to deal with the headache of another class. But as always grown men and women are bitching. If you want NHRA promod rules you should go race NHRA promod!!!!!
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Post by yvonne on Oct 5, 2013 6:51:49 GMT -8
Dal, nobody is trying to exclude anybody. I'm friends with you and with Dale P and I can assure you this has nothing to do with small block turbo cars. There is more to this story than you know.
I wish Mel the best of luck with his class........
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Post by 1badgto on Oct 5, 2013 20:50:43 GMT -8
Dal, nobody is trying to exclude anybody. I'm friends with you and with Dale P and I can assure you this has nothing to do with small block turbo cars. There is more to this story than you know. I wish Mel the best of luck with his class........ Yvonne, is your car even legal to run Pro Mod right now? I highly doubt more than a handful of west coast cars have the proper safety equipment that NHRA requires to compete in their class. I'm a little confused here, the weights posted look really competitive and the Big Guns have their own class so why all the negativity? We're all in this together to keep racing our cars, this proposed class is the best weight package on paper I've seen for scsn, esp for nitrous cars Earlier this year I've heard you complaining that screws have ruined west coast pro cars, now mel proposes a class that excludes them and you still aren't satisfied? I think there's more to your personal story and not a simple class
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Post by Mel/SCSN on Oct 6, 2013 7:41:48 GMT -8
Only NHRA Follow NHRA Rules... ADRL does not limit Turbo Boost
We are having this class, full rules and weights will be released on Tuesday and it will be a very competitive class for ALL COMBO'S!!!!
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